In the shadowy corridors of Cold War paranoia, the CIA launched one of the most infamous and controversial programs in its history—Project MK-ULTRA. Understanding MK-ULTRA is crucial to fully appreciate many of the theories that will be discussed here in relation to Luigi Mangione and his trial.
You're recounting a lot of history that is at this point fairly well known. But you haven't supplied one scrap of evidence connecting it to Mangione's case. Without that, there's only sensationalistic conjecture and speculation that doesn't even rise to the level of "theory."
This is fucking ridiculous and makes me doubt everything else you publish about the case. The lesson of MK-ULTRA is that mind control doesn’t fucking work. You can reduce people to shells of their former selves, but you cannot rebuild them in your image. You can manipulate them through the media, but that only works on everyday people, not on people tortured to insanity, and even then its results are hard to predict.
The Whitmer kidnapping plot was a case of simple entrapment: CI gives a group or individual an idea for a crime, then follows it through with them right until the end, when the feds swoop in /before the crime can be committed/. Does that sound like what happened here, to you?
Moreover, have you seen our federal government recently? They’re not doing well, to say the least. Granted, the crime happened before the takeover, but the plan would’ve completely fallen apart after the handoff, and we’d be hearing all about it from a newly-burned spy. Right now the DOJ is such a clusterfuck they can’t even churn out an indictment of our dude. Get real!
Yes! There is definitely more to this story. There is a book called CHAOS that talks about Charles Mansons' ties to the CIA and the idea that Manson and his followers were products of the CIAs 'Operation Chaos' through their LSD labs in San Francisco.
I read the book. That is not what the author, Tom O'Neill, says. I found CHAOS to be informative reading, but it didn't comes to any firm conclusions about what Manson was up to, or about his connections to intelligence agencies. There's nothing in the book about Manson's involvement with any LSD labs, much less to "CIA LSD labs in San Francisco". What accounted for a lot of what I liked about O'Neill's book is that he writes quite a bit about what a burden it is for a serious researcher and investigator to try to winnow facts from fiction on mysteries of that sort, and trying to construct an accurate account without falling into false, overambitious pattern recognition, grand theories, and sweeping conclusions. It's a disillusioning and lonely journey. I appreciate O'Neill's honesty in admitting that his researches were ultimately left unresolved.
You're recounting a lot of history that is at this point fairly well known. But you haven't supplied one scrap of evidence connecting it to Mangione's case. Without that, there's only sensationalistic conjecture and speculation that doesn't even rise to the level of "theory."
This is fucking ridiculous and makes me doubt everything else you publish about the case. The lesson of MK-ULTRA is that mind control doesn’t fucking work. You can reduce people to shells of their former selves, but you cannot rebuild them in your image. You can manipulate them through the media, but that only works on everyday people, not on people tortured to insanity, and even then its results are hard to predict.
The Whitmer kidnapping plot was a case of simple entrapment: CI gives a group or individual an idea for a crime, then follows it through with them right until the end, when the feds swoop in /before the crime can be committed/. Does that sound like what happened here, to you?
Moreover, have you seen our federal government recently? They’re not doing well, to say the least. Granted, the crime happened before the takeover, but the plan would’ve completely fallen apart after the handoff, and we’d be hearing all about it from a newly-burned spy. Right now the DOJ is such a clusterfuck they can’t even churn out an indictment of our dude. Get real!
That’s what THEY want you to think.
Yes! There is definitely more to this story. There is a book called CHAOS that talks about Charles Mansons' ties to the CIA and the idea that Manson and his followers were products of the CIAs 'Operation Chaos' through their LSD labs in San Francisco.
I read the book. That is not what the author, Tom O'Neill, says. I found CHAOS to be informative reading, but it didn't comes to any firm conclusions about what Manson was up to, or about his connections to intelligence agencies. There's nothing in the book about Manson's involvement with any LSD labs, much less to "CIA LSD labs in San Francisco". What accounted for a lot of what I liked about O'Neill's book is that he writes quite a bit about what a burden it is for a serious researcher and investigator to try to winnow facts from fiction on mysteries of that sort, and trying to construct an accurate account without falling into false, overambitious pattern recognition, grand theories, and sweeping conclusions. It's a disillusioning and lonely journey. I appreciate O'Neill's honesty in admitting that his researches were ultimately left unresolved.